Comments for Beyond the Scoresheet http://blog.njhockey.org Jonathan Yardley on New Jersey high school ice hockey Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:07:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 Comment on Projected seeds, 2010 by tom phillips http://blog.njhockey.org/2010/02/15/projected-seeds-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-3476 tom phillips Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:00:58 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/?p=186#comment-3476 i guess i was correct without stating the obvious i guess i was correct without stating the obvious

]]> Comment on Projected seeds, 2010 by tom phillips http://blog.njhockey.org/2010/02/15/projected-seeds-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-3475 tom phillips Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:42:26 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/?p=186#comment-3475 how did you come up with trhs being ranked 25th? one bad game all year and is that what you were stuck on? that was in dec have not lost since and tied hillsbourgh ,after out shooting them and beat wall, howell and won dowd cup. <em>Tom - Please remember that state tournament seeding is based only on results through 2/15, so the tie with Hillsborough and the Dowd Cup playoffs did not count. TRS did not have any impressive non-league results at the time, so their best result was a transitive one (Wall's win over Hopewell Valley), which in my book earned TRS being ranked ahead of WWPN but no higher. Obviously, they've been very good of late and wound up quite a bit higher, helped in part by the committee's surprising respect for the CVC. -- JY</em> how did you come up with trhs being ranked 25th? one bad game all year and is that what you were stuck on? that was in dec have not lost since and tied hillsbourgh ,after out shooting them and beat wall, howell and won dowd cup.

Tom - Please remember that state tournament seeding is based only on results through 2/15, so the tie with Hillsborough and the Dowd Cup playoffs did not count. TRS did not have any impressive non-league results at the time, so their best result was a transitive one (Wall’s win over Hopewell Valley), which in my book earned TRS being ranked ahead of WWPN but no higher. Obviously, they’ve been very good of late and wound up quite a bit higher, helped in part by the committee’s surprising respect for the CVC. — JY

]]> Comment on Projected seeds, 2010 by Matt http://blog.njhockey.org/2010/02/15/projected-seeds-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-3474 Matt Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:47:59 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/?p=186#comment-3474 Well, Pequannock did it again. Didn't qualify for state playoffs, then beats #1 Jefferson (#3 overall Public B) in the Halvorsen Cup. I guess Dave Coar was right. Well, Pequannock did it again. Didn’t qualify for state playoffs, then beats #1 Jefferson (#3 overall Public B) in the Halvorsen Cup. I guess Dave Coar was right.

]]> Comment on Projected seeds, 2010 by John Smith http://blog.njhockey.org/2010/02/15/projected-seeds-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-3470 John Smith Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:02:30 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/?p=186#comment-3470 I feel like you have a slight inclination toward South Jersey. Any reason why? I respect all your seedings, but just get that feeling of you thinking hockey is better there? <em>John - That's good to hear, because if anything, I usually get accused of having a Morris County bias! If it appears that way, it's probably because there are a limited number of games between teams from South Jersey and the rest of the state on which to base seeding. A few wins can go a long way in that environment. -- JY</em> I feel like you have a slight inclination toward South Jersey. Any reason why? I respect all your seedings, but just get that feeling of you thinking hockey is better there?

John - That’s good to hear, because if anything, I usually get accused of having a Morris County bias! If it appears that way, it’s probably because there are a limited number of games between teams from South Jersey and the rest of the state on which to base seeding. A few wins can go a long way in that environment. — JY

]]> Comment on Projected seeds, 2010 by Pete Halko http://blog.njhockey.org/2010/02/15/projected-seeds-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-3469 Pete Halko Wed, 17 Feb 2010 02:49:46 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/?p=186#comment-3469 I agree with comment by Mr. Coar, Peq deserves a shot at states. Class act and can surprise anyone. WMC is in Public A I believe. I agree with comment by Mr. Coar, Peq deserves a shot at states. Class act and can surprise anyone.

WMC is in Public A I believe.

]]> Comment on Projected seeds, 2010 by Dave Coar http://blog.njhockey.org/2010/02/15/projected-seeds-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-3468 Dave Coar Tue, 16 Feb 2010 23:33:53 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/?p=186#comment-3468 Jon, you know how much I respect your opinion and how grateful I am for all you have done for NJ High School Ice Hockey. I respectfully disagree with your At-Large entrants since it fails to include Pequannock. I feel there is a strong case to be made to enter the Pequannock Township Golden Panthers into this year's Public B tourney. Here are the reasons: PTHS Ice Hockey Team record is 8 Wins - 11 Losses This record does not include snowed out games v. Mendham (a likely victory since the first meeting was 4-0 Pequannock) and Freehold Township. The team is ranked # 26 out of 106 Public School teams in the State as of 2/10/2010(ushsho.com). That is the top 25% of all public schools This ranking does not include a loss to #10 Jefferson and a 6-4 victory over #22 Roxbury The team had significant victories over #5 Randolph & #13 Morristown The team had 3 one goal losses to #4 Chatham and #28 Mountain Lakes(twice) The team had 3 dominating victories over #52 Montville and #57 Indian Hills(twice) Difficult schedule: 7 of 11 losses were to #4 Private Morristown-Beard, #1 Morris Knolls, #4 Chatham, #6 Kinnelon, #10 Jefferson(twice) and #13 Morristown. Several of these teams are Private or Public A entrants into this year's tourney, if enetred, Pequannock could face Chatham, Kinnelon or Jefferson in the Public B. Strong finish: the team is 3-1 in last 4 games Two years ago (2007-08) a 10-12-1 PTHS team was not entered into the tourney and won the inaugural Halvorsen Cup beating both Public B State Finalists, Kinnelon & Jefferson! There are 7 Seniors on this year's PTHS Ice Hockey Team and this is their final chance to play a State playoff game. The Pequannock Township Golden Panthers must be allowed into this year's Public B State Playoffs based upon their strength of schedule. significant victories, strong finish and history of accomplishment. I beg the NJSIAA At Large Committee to allow this deserving team into 'the show'. Thanks, Dave Coar Jon, you know how much I respect your opinion and how grateful I am for all you have done for NJ High School Ice Hockey. I respectfully disagree with your At-Large entrants since it fails to include Pequannock. I feel there is a strong case to be made to enter the Pequannock Township Golden Panthers into this year’s Public B tourney.

Here are the reasons:
PTHS Ice Hockey Team record is 8 Wins - 11 Losses
This record does not include snowed out games v. Mendham (a likely victory since the first meeting was 4-0 Pequannock) and Freehold Township.
The team is ranked # 26 out of 106 Public School teams in the State as of 2/10/2010(ushsho.com). That is the top 25% of all public schools
This ranking does not include a loss to #10 Jefferson and a 6-4 victory over #22 Roxbury
The team had significant victories over #5 Randolph & #13 Morristown
The team had 3 one goal losses to #4 Chatham and #28 Mountain Lakes(twice)
The team had 3 dominating victories over #52 Montville and #57 Indian Hills(twice)
Difficult schedule: 7 of 11 losses were to #4 Private Morristown-Beard, #1 Morris Knolls, #4 Chatham, #6 Kinnelon, #10 Jefferson(twice) and #13 Morristown. Several of these teams are Private or Public A entrants into this year’s tourney, if enetred, Pequannock could face Chatham, Kinnelon or Jefferson in the Public B.
Strong finish: the team is 3-1 in last 4 games
Two years ago (2007-08) a 10-12-1 PTHS team was not entered into the tourney and won the inaugural Halvorsen Cup beating both Public B State Finalists, Kinnelon & Jefferson!
There are 7 Seniors on this year’s PTHS Ice Hockey Team and this is their final chance to play a State playoff game. The Pequannock Township Golden Panthers must be allowed into this year’s Public B State Playoffs based upon their strength of schedule. significant victories, strong finish and history of accomplishment.

I beg the NJSIAA At Large Committee to allow this deserving team into ‘the show’.

Thanks,

Dave Coar

]]> Comment on Opening Day! by db http://blog.njhockey.org/2009/12/02/opening-day-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3467 db Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:51:30 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/?p=176#comment-3467 Shore C - a shame Shore Conf. didn't reallign before this season as a ShoreA school such as TRE will struggle all season long. Still, Howell went out and did the right thing by scheduling games against 6 of the Shore A teams including MD, MS and both Brick teams as travelling far away from the shore for away games at Northern Highlands and Paramus Catholic. Kudos to Howell Shore C - a shame Shore Conf. didn’t reallign before this season as a ShoreA school such as TRE will struggle all season long. Still, Howell went out and did the right thing by scheduling games against 6 of the Shore A teams including MD, MS and both Brick teams as travelling far away from the shore for away games at Northern Highlands and Paramus Catholic. Kudos to Howell

]]> Comment on 2009-10 season preview by gary fuchs http://blog.njhockey.org/2009/11/28/season-preview/comment-page-1/#comment-3466 gary fuchs Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:18:36 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/?p=173#comment-3466 I read somewhere that Carlo DiPiazza has returned to Bergen Catholic for his senior year. If so, this will really improve their questionable scoring ability. <em>Gary - I have also heard that rumor, but I haven't heard it first-hand from a coach, so I'm waiting to see DiPiazza's name on the scoresheet. He was one player I definitely remembered from past seasons, so it'll be interesting to see. -- JY</em> I read somewhere that Carlo DiPiazza has returned to Bergen Catholic for his senior year. If so, this will really improve their questionable scoring ability.

Gary - I have also heard that rumor, but I haven’t heard it first-hand from a coach, so I’m waiting to see DiPiazza’s name on the scoresheet. He was one player I definitely remembered from past seasons, so it’ll be interesting to see. — JY

]]> Comment on Projected seeds, 2009 by Dan http://blog.njhockey.org/2009/02/21/state-seeds-09/comment-page-1/#comment-3464 Dan Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:17:15 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/2009/02/21/state-seeds-09/#comment-3464 Well - my apologies to you Jon - Looks like the seeding commitee did the same and based a whole lot more on head-to-head than in the past. Best of luck to all teams. Well - my apologies to you Jon - Looks like the seeding commitee did the same and based a whole lot more on head-to-head than in the past.

Best of luck to all teams.

]]> Comment on Projected seeds, 2009 by Dan http://blog.njhockey.org/2009/02/21/state-seeds-09/comment-page-1/#comment-3463 Dan Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:56:42 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/2009/02/21/state-seeds-09/#comment-3463 Jon, I think you based too much (at least in Private) on head to head and not entire body of work or how teams are playing as year winds down. SPP beat MB by 1 but MB has been more consistent throughout and looks better when considering common opponents. SJV vs MD - SJV won on scoreboard but were thoroughly outplayed and SJV is reeling right now. RBC also falling off as season winds down - beat ND awhile back but wouldn't right now. And PJ - if win vs SJV puts them above SJV and therefore above about 3 teams they don't belong above, why doesn't SA wins against SPP do a lot more for them? Jon,

I think you based too much (at least in Private) on head to head and not entire body of work or how teams are playing as year winds down.

SPP beat MB by 1 but MB has been more consistent throughout and looks better when considering common opponents.
SJV vs MD - SJV won on scoreboard but were thoroughly outplayed and SJV is reeling right now.
RBC also falling off as season winds down - beat ND awhile back but wouldn’t right now.
And PJ - if win vs SJV puts them above SJV and therefore above about 3 teams they don’t belong above, why doesn’t SA wins against SPP do a lot more for them?

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