Comments on: Projecting seeds, Part III http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/ Jonathan Yardley on New Jersey high school ice hockey Sat, 11 Oct 2008 13:43:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Tony P http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3456 Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:52:38 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3456 Not sure whether they belong in A or B but I think that West Windsor South may have merited an at-large bid. While the team did struggle down the stretch - and their record did include a number of wins against the weaker squads in the CVC - they did tie both North and Tenafly and had a pair of large wins over tournament qualifier Lawrence. In fact, their two most impressive efforts may have been in losses, 3-1 to Notre Dame and 3-0 against Hopewell. Far and away the best teams in the league. Not sure whether they belong in A or B but I think that West Windsor South may have merited an at-large bid. While the team did struggle down the stretch - and their record did include a number of wins against the weaker squads in the CVC - they did tie both North and Tenafly and had a pair of large wins over tournament qualifier Lawrence. In fact, their two most impressive efforts may have been in losses, 3-1 to Notre Dame and 3-0 against Hopewell. Far and away the best teams in the league.

]]> by: John http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3451 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:28:49 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3451 pretty good seedings, but dumont should be higher, dont take them lightly. They bet Depaul and gave passaic valley a good game. Hopewell Valley better watch out! pretty good seedings, but dumont should be higher, dont take them lightly. They bet Depaul and gave passaic valley a good game. Hopewell Valley better watch out!

]]> by: JJ http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3448 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:35:42 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3448 Job well done, Jon Sparta beat Vernon in a shoot-out for the Sussex Cup. Mike Postorino has truly excelled on the first line with Kris Tikkanen. Chris Pszonek held down the goalie position admirably despite a very shaky defense. They had a win and a tie against Paramus and tied Montclair twice. Not terrible for first year in the division. Job well done, Jon

Sparta beat Vernon in a shoot-out for the Sussex Cup. Mike Postorino has truly excelled on the first line with Kris Tikkanen. Chris Pszonek held down the goalie position admirably despite a very shaky defense. They had a win and a tie against Paramus and tied Montclair twice.

Not terrible for first year in the division.

]]> by: PETER http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3447 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:56:09 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3447 i agree with you west essex deserves to get an at large bid i agree with you west essex deserves to get an at large bid

]]> by: chay http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3446 Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:37:03 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3446 DEAR JOHN west essex definitely desreves the number 5 spot. They beat both Glen Rock who is at #9 and Chatham who's at #7. They schedule games against garbage teams because 10 games in their season were played against teams like Ridge, MKA, Montgomery, St. Joes MEt., and Gloucester Catholic. They play in the best division besides the Gordon and they've held their own against most of those teams. Jon Yardley knows his stuff. DEAR JOHN

west essex definitely desreves the number 5 spot. They beat both Glen Rock who is at #9 and Chatham who’s at #7. They schedule games against garbage teams because 10 games in their season were played against teams like Ridge, MKA, Montgomery, St. Joes MEt., and Gloucester Catholic. They play in the best division besides the Gordon and they’ve held their own against most of those teams. Jon Yardley knows his stuff.

]]> by: Derrick http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3444 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:53:41 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3444 Kinnelon's been the top seed virtually ALL year...they lose to the defending state champs (their only loss) and TIE Northern Highlands (without their rookie of the year defenseman and starting goalie) in one week and suddenly they drop 2 seeds. It doesn't surprise me that no one has any respect for or confidence in Kinnelon. They didn't LOSE, they TIED. Kinnelon has beaten Knolls, Pingry, RIDGE and tied Mo Beard...Ramsey has beaten Northern Highlands and that's it. Not to mention ties to Paramus Catholic and OLD TAPPAN. NOT 'nough said. Explain yourself Jon Yardley. Kinnelon’s been the top seed virtually ALL year…they lose to the defending state champs (their only loss) and TIE Northern Highlands (without their rookie of the year defenseman and starting goalie) in one week and suddenly they drop 2 seeds. It doesn’t surprise me that no one has any respect for or confidence in Kinnelon.

They didn’t LOSE, they TIED. Kinnelon has beaten Knolls, Pingry, RIDGE and tied Mo Beard…Ramsey has beaten Northern Highlands and that’s it. Not to mention ties to Paramus Catholic and OLD TAPPAN.

NOT ‘nough said.
Explain yourself Jon Yardley.

]]> by: john http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3443 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:43:33 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3443 If you want West Essex in that's fine...but number 5 in public B!!! That's crazy. If they were really the 5th best team in public B they wouldn't have to schedule teams like Old Tappan, Wayne Hills, and Mt. Olive. Those are some really tough independent games... If you want West Essex in that’s fine…but number 5 in public B!!! That’s crazy. If they were really the 5th best team in public B they wouldn’t have to schedule teams like Old Tappan, Wayne Hills, and Mt. Olive. Those are some really tough independent games…

]]> by: Net http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3440 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:05:03 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3440 Kinda disagree with a lot of the rankings once you get to 15 or lower. Lawrence lost to Rville and WWPS yet ranked higher than Rville who beat Lawrence and WPPS? Have seen Lakeland and Sparta and WWPN would roll over either by 2-4 goals. HV is a little low at #6. Rville is 5-1 vs "white" level teams and gets no repsect. Respectfully submitted. Thanx for all thew work you do for HS hockey. <em>JY: Right you are, missed that Robbinsville-Lawrence result. That's why we do this. Seedings have been updated.</em> Kinda disagree with a lot of the rankings once you get to 15 or lower. Lawrence lost to Rville and WWPS yet ranked higher than Rville who beat Lawrence and WPPS? Have seen Lakeland and Sparta and WWPN would roll over either by 2-4 goals. HV is a little low at #6. Rville is 5-1 vs “white” level teams and gets no repsect.
Respectfully submitted.
Thanx for all thew work you do for HS hockey.

JY: Right you are, missed that Robbinsville-Lawrence result. That’s why we do this. Seedings have been updated.

]]> by: Sam http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3439 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:48:33 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3439 NJSIAA's move to split the state tournament in 1/2 this year to allow smaller schools a chance to win it all seems particularly silly now that we have rached the point of projecting A and B seedings. Just look at the top of this so called "B" list. HV beat Randolph, an A school, and Kinnelon has been ranked by many through out the year as the best A or B school beating Ridge. Then you have Ramsey at the top of the list who beat HV twice. Even number 7 Chatham has had some big games . They beat Knolls and tied Randolph. Jefferson is a very competitive team as well. So in effect you have at least 4 or 5 schools hear that could arguably win a state title against A schools. At the bottom of this list you have weaker teams who still won't stand a chance of winning a state championship given the powers on top. Has the NJIAAs acheived their objective? I guess so in that they have forced a B champion. But clearly, those at the top whould have been able to go toe to toe with the larger schools so why split it up? NJSIAA’s move to split the state tournament in 1/2 this year to allow smaller schools a chance to win it all seems particularly silly now that we have rached the point of projecting A and B seedings.

Just look at the top of this so called “B” list. HV beat Randolph, an A school, and Kinnelon has been ranked by many through out the year as the best A or B school beating Ridge. Then you have Ramsey at the top of the list who beat HV twice. Even number 7 Chatham has had some big games . They beat Knolls and tied Randolph. Jefferson is a very competitive team as well.

So in effect you have at least 4 or 5 schools hear that could arguably win a state title against A schools.

At the bottom of this list you have weaker teams who still won’t stand a chance of winning a state championship given the powers on top.

Has the NJIAAs acheived their objective? I guess so in that they have forced a B champion. But clearly, those at the top whould have been able to go toe to toe with the larger schools so why split it up?

]]> by: jp http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3438 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:17:57 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/02/14/publicbseeds/#comment-3438 Not arguing with your seedings, but for #6, HV you state they were outscored 2 to 1 by ND. The first game was a 2-2 tie, and the second a 1-0 decision. Not sure what you mean by the comment? <em>JY: Fixed it, thanks.</em> Not arguing with your seedings, but for #6, HV you state they were outscored 2 to 1 by ND. The first game was a 2-2 tie, and the second a 1-0 decision. Not sure what you mean by the comment?

JY: Fixed it, thanks.

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