Comments on: Shore Conference playoffs http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/01/20/shorecup/ Jonathan Yardley on New Jersey high school ice hockey Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:30:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: db http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/01/20/shorecup/#comment-3429 Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:46:20 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/01/20/shorecup/#comment-3429 Bob Badders of Digital sports has this update on his blog. "I have just been informed that the Shore Conference executive committee has had a change of heart regarding the Shore Conference ice hockey playoffs and will now have two separate tournaments. According to Wall associate head coach Dave Smith, the A Division Tournament will have six teams and the B Division Tournament will have four teams. Both championship games will be played on Friday February 22 at Winding River Skating Center in Toms River." Looks like someone (coaches?) complained loud and clear. Bob Badders of Digital sports has this update on his blog.

“I have just been informed that the Shore Conference executive committee has had a change of heart regarding the Shore Conference ice hockey playoffs and will now have two separate tournaments. According to Wall associate head coach Dave Smith, the A Division Tournament will have six teams and the B Division Tournament will have four teams. Both championship games will be played on Friday February 22 at Winding River Skating Center in Toms River.”

Looks like someone (coaches?) complained loud and clear.

]]> by: Shore Coach http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/01/20/shorecup/#comment-3425 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:05:28 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/01/20/shorecup/#comment-3425 The system is flawed and certainly not endorsed by any coach in the conference. Unfortunately, a Shore Conference school is obligated to follow the by laws and the by laws are not sport specific. What works in one sport does not work in others. Change is necessary, but change takes time...especially when the decision makers have little (if any) knowledge of our sport. We have a difficult task ahead, to create understanding and change policy so we can implement the common sense solution that is painfully obvious to all. The system is flawed and certainly not endorsed by any coach in the conference. Unfortunately, a Shore Conference school is obligated to follow the by laws and the by laws are not sport specific. What works in one sport does not work in others. Change is necessary, but change takes time…especially when the decision makers have little (if any) knowledge of our sport. We have a difficult task ahead, to create understanding and change policy so we can implement the common sense solution that is painfully obvious to all.

]]> by: db http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/01/20/shorecup/#comment-3424 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:17:13 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/01/20/shorecup/#comment-3424 Really rediculous on a few acounts. #1 - making it different for Publics, vs non-publics. MD plays SJV and RBC once each, SJV and RBC play each other 2X each as well as MD. How do you determine who has the best record when they don't even play the same amount of games. #2 - the at-large bids. Assuming they give 2 of the at-large bids to the other non-pubs (and I wouldn't even count on that with back room politics), PubA North teams play 5 games against non-pubs, PubA South only 4, meaning the North teams have a tougher go at the only at large berth available. Truly dumb. An A and a B tournament, (6 of 10 A teams and 4 of 8 B teams) made too much sense I guess. Really rediculous on a few acounts. #1 - making it different for Publics, vs non-publics. MD plays SJV and RBC once each, SJV and RBC play each other 2X each as well as MD. How do you determine who has the best record when they don’t even play the same amount of games. #2 - the at-large bids. Assuming they give 2 of the at-large bids to the other non-pubs (and I wouldn’t even count on that with back room politics), PubA North teams play 5 games against non-pubs, PubA South only 4, meaning the North teams have a tougher go at the only at large berth available. Truly dumb. An A and a B tournament, (6 of 10 A teams and 4 of 8 B teams) made too much sense I guess.

]]> by: Rick http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/01/20/shorecup/#comment-3422 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:00:56 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/01/20/shorecup/#comment-3422 Wow, that's terrible. So next year, it will essentially be the 4 winners and the 4 big private schools? We're going to have numerous teams qualify for states and not for their conference playoffs. Why not make it bigger and make the crossover games matter? Wow, that’s terrible. So next year, it will essentially be the 4 winners and the 4 big private schools? We’re going to have numerous teams qualify for states and not for their conference playoffs. Why not make it bigger and make the crossover games matter?

]]> by: Jesse http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/01/20/shorecup/#comment-3421 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 03:54:32 +0000 http://blog.njhockey.org/2008/01/20/shorecup/#comment-3421 Wait, so how will the top teams be determined. Lets use Shore A south Public team for example. Will it go by all shore conference games, games against their division (A South), games against the public schools in its division, or will games against public B have any impact. Im confused so if you could clarify that id appreciate it. <em>JY: As I understand it, it will go by division games only (including private schools). Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.</em> Wait, so how will the top teams be determined. Lets use Shore A south Public team for example. Will it go by all shore conference games, games against their division (A South), games against the public schools in its division, or will games against public B have any impact. Im confused so if you could clarify that id appreciate it.

JY: As I understand it, it will go by division games only (including private schools). Someone feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

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